Automobile accident
Good morning, Desiree. It seems to me you are still using the automobile accident that you were involved in, on the 405, in July 2000, as the basis for Gabriel's premature birth (and the ROP that resulted from such premature birth), and to gain people's pity. I wish to review the facts so that we can put that matter to rest once and for all. 1. Following the accident, paramedics arrived on the scene. They inspected you for possible injuries and found none. You informed them you were pregnant. They performed further tests to ensure no harm to the uterus and fetus. No harm was found. In their professional opinion they did not believe it was necessary to bring you to the hospital for further inspection and/or tests. 2. At that time we had Blue Cross PPO medical insurance, under a group plan from the job I had with Fetch Technologies. It is a very standard policy of EVERY health insurance provider that, if an accident occurs and there is even the slightest possibility of injuries then the recipient MUST submit for medical tests. That is because the cost of the tests is only a fraction of the cost of the medical care that may result if there are injuries and they are ignored. So, obviously, Blue Cross also did not consider your condition worthy of further testing. 3. If there was actually a uterine rupture, as you keep claiming, there would have been other signs, which you would not have been able to ignore, including abnormal heart rate in the fetus; abdominal pain; vaginal bleeding; irritation to the diaghragm; and internal bleeding. You had none of those symptoms. If the paramedics had even the smallest evidence to support the belief that there may have been a uterine rupture (or any other damage/injury) then they would have taken you to the hospital - especially since you were pregnant. 4. The police and insurance reports of the accident clearly state there were no injuries to you. 5. After the accident, you walked away from it - literally! You walked to a payphone and called me at work to inform me of the accident. You insisted you were fine. When I got home from work that evening you were fine and not experiencing any discomfort. If you had any type of rupture or "tear" (as you keep calling it), you would have been very uncomfortable. 6. Following the accident, you continued to attend your gynecologist, who continued to do ultrasounds, and found no abnormalities. 7. A few weeks after the accident we had a substantial argument, wherein I pointed out how "bad things" seemed to keep happening to you and how that was causing us so many complications (namely financial). You cried and said you wanted us to go back to Phoenix so you could be close to your mother...what with the pregnancy and all. I told you I didn't want to leave LA. You locked yourself in the bathroom for some period of time. I eventually asked if you were okay. You were crying and said you were bleeding. I brought you to the UCLA Medical Center on Carson Street. During the course of the many, repetitious questions from the interns and residents, you admitted to them: a) you had never been pregnant before; b) you had never had an abortion before; c) earlier that evening, you were upset about a fight we had had and had been hitting yourself in the stomach; d) you had been in a car accident a few weeks earlier. 8. It was determined that the cause of the bleeding was from hitting yourself in the stomach earlier that evening. The doctors referred you to attend psychological counseling on an outpatient basis. You said you would, but of course, you never did. 9. After that stomach punching incident, you stopped attending your gynecologist. 10. After that trip to the UCLA Medical Center I immediately agreed to move back to Phoenix "so you could be close to your family" during the pregnancy. Now, what I would like from you is for you to deny these claims and call me a liar. I will then, gladly, post the medical, insurance, and police reports to your website. Yes, medical reports are confidential, but you live in the "greatest country in the world", where anything can be purchased! Yay, America! So, I will assume that the world (and Gabriel) will not be hearing any more of that drivel from you that he was born premature and has ROP because of a car accident. Good day, Fox P.S. I've BCC'd all of the relevant parties.
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 11:34 AM
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Richard that is not what happened at all. Your account of the details of that day are grossly inaccurate. I didn't lock myself in the bathroom, I was not in there for "some amount of time", and I told you when you asked me that I absolutely did not inflict any harm on myself. The accident ripped the placenta - this was verified by the doctor when I had Sage as I was not allowed to go into labor or have contractions. It was the stress of crying over you telling that you didn't want me or Gabriel that caused the bleeding to start that day. You wouldn't know that because you were calmly sitting at the restaurant drinking a martini. And seriously, If there had been ANY evidence of trauma to the abdominal region in the hospital, whether self-inflicted or not, the police would have called. That was not even a subject that was brought up in the hospital. Once again, you are distorting the facts and the truth to make it appear how you want.
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:00 PM
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Desiree: Your accounting of the "facts" do not stand up to scrutiny. Please see my comments, inline.Are you suggesting that the ultrasounds and x-rays you received after the accident, but before the UCLA visit, were unable to detect any abnormalities, and your own gynecologist was unable to detect any problems? Yet, miraculously, out of the blue, three weeks AFTER the accident the placenta suddenly separated from the uterus? Unprovoked? Are we then to believe that it was only 2 years later, during a subsequent pregnancy, that another doctor was able to determine that the matter was caused by a car accident three years earlier? Of course, that doctor was basis any such diagnosis on what you told him - not on the records he would have obtained from UCLA. Did you tell that doctor about the records at UCLA? I suspect not.Richard that is not what happened at all. Your account of the details of that day are grossly inaccurate. I didn't lock myself in the bathroom, I was not in there for "some amount of time", and I told you when you asked me that I absolutely did not inflict any harm on myself. The accident ripped the placenta - this was verified by the doctor when I had Sage as I was not allowed to go into labor or have contractions.Are you suggesting that the stress, which you had imposed upon yourself (all stress is self induced), caused you to start bleeding? Why would you suddenly be stressed about me not wanting to have children? I made it very clear to you before you even became pregnant that I didn't want children.It was the stress of crying over you telling that you didn't want me or Gabriel that caused the bleeding to start that day.That is incorrect. There was no where near the hotel to get a martini and I was in the hotel room with you. Otherwise, how could I have even known that you were in the bathroom, crying and bleeding? I didn't have a mobile phone.You wouldn't know that because you were calmly sitting at the restaurant drinking a martini.As always, your understanding of the law is misguided. Until the fetus is removed from the host, it is not considered a life of it's own and there is no law prohibiting the self-termination of a pregnancy. A doctor is not required to notify the police of such.And seriously, If there had been ANY evidence of trauma to the abdominal region in the hospital, whether self-inflicted or not, the police would have called.It's in your chart! Why don't you obtain and read the existing records before you respond?That was not even a subject that was brought up in the hospital.All I ever do is recount what is in the supporting evidence. Memory is unreliable and skewed. My statements are based on what is in the reports and records. I would be very curious to review the medical reports from your pregnancy with Sage. Perhaps you would be kind enough to tell me who that doctor was and I can have my investigator "reach out" to his/her assistant. FoxOnce again, you are distorting the facts and the truth to make it appear how you want.
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:09 PM
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This response does not include any hospital records.
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:10 PM
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Richard - you don't seem to understand, I never went to the hospital following the car accident. I should have, yes, but I didn't. There were no x-Rays after the accident. There was no hospital visit until the bleeding.
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:17 PM
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Desiree: I did not say "immediately after". I said "after". "After" means ANY TIME after the given point. Going to the hospital immediately after the accident would not have been a "choice" on your part. Blue Cross would have required it. And if you refused then they would not have covered any complications resulting from the accident. That is how insurance works.
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:22 PM
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Blue Cross had nothing to do with anything at all...that doesn't make sense. They would have required it out else...? What?? They wouldn't continue coverage?? Did you inform them of the accident, because I don't remember calling them to let them know. Are you saying that the police reported the accident to Blue Cross???
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:24 PM
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Or are you saying that Blue Cross was on the freeway with the police and the other people in the accident?? Demanding that I get into the ambulance??
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:28 PM
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Of course I informed them. I was required to inform them. You were covered by them at the time. What's wrong with you?
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:16 PM
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Oh My God - see - this is why I know your memory is all messed up. You told me you didn't want me or the baby while we were on our way to the restaurant during your lunch break because you wanted a drink. You ordered a martini and I got a water. Before the water even came, I walked across the street to Ocean Ave and sat under a tree crying and trying to figure what I was going to do next. There was pain in the abdomen area but I thought it was just from the crying. But the breathing and stress aggravated the damage done in the accident which resulted in the bleeding. The doctor 2 years later, drying the C-section was able to see the scarring the was caused from the ripping of the placenta. Now, unless you have formal medical training, the only other response I expect to get from you are the medical records proving your story (and it is a story as it is not fact).
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:26 PM
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Let me see if I understand this correctly. Your story is that I left work, in Marina Del Rey (that's where Fetch Technologies was), to meet you for lunch; we went for lunch in Santa Monica (that's where Ocean Avenue is); while at the restaurant, around lunch time, you went across the street and THAT'S when the bleeding occurred; then, from Santa Monica, we drove all the way to the UCLA Medical Center in Torrance (22 miles away) and didn't arrive there until about 7:20pm? There seem to be some logistical flaws in your story. Now, who's memory is messed up? Fox
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:36 PM
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Nope. The day started out in Santa Monica as we were on our way to get the marriage license. In line, next to be called you said you wanted to get married in Vegas, so we left and went to have breakfast. Where you told me that I was "high maintenance." I then took you to work at Marina Del Ray (which is where you were working). I parked in the parking garage and slept because I was scared of driving on the freeway (due to the accident). You called me at lunchtime and told me to pick you up - I told you I was already there. You got into the drivers seat and I told you I wanted a goldfish as a pet. You told me I was not able to handle any responsibility and having a goldfish was a stupid idea. As we were nearing the restaurant you told me that you would pay for the expenses and cost of living for me and the baby but you didn't want to be a part of it. We ordered the drinks, I went across the street to the park. I had pain but did not start bleeding then. I went back to the restaurant and we left to go back to the Extended Stay. On the way, we stopped to get the apple fritter that you wanted. As we were walking up the final flight of stairs I felt wetness and thought I ha peed myself. I went directly to the bathroom and saw the blood. I asked you to go back to the gas station to get Kotex. You asked why and I told you I was bleeding. You asked if you could come in and I said yes. I never got off the toilet so the door was never locked. You came in and asked if I caused it. I told you no. Then we went to the hospital. It was already dark when we got there.
Desiree: You're incorrigible. I don't believe there is anything further that needs to be said. I'll update the website when I have time. Fox
Desiree: If you're so convinced of what you're saying then why don't you just call the UCLA hospital and get a copy of the records? Fox
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 11:49 AM
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You will forward me all supporting evidence stating that I told the care physician that I hit myself in the stomach and that they recommended any type of psychological treatment BEFORE making the outrageous claims and involving others in your inaccurate memory. These things never happened and I know for a fact that you have nothing stating this. But I call your bluff.
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Fri, Jun 12, 2015, 12:11 PM
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No. I will allow you to continue defending your prior statements until you back yourself into a corner and contradict yourself, then I will upload all of these emails and scanned copies of the documents to your website. You may call my bluff if you wish. You have done so in the past and what happened? The audio recording of you being arrested was made public; your mugshot was made public. I don't bluff because it is possible the other party may try to call your bluff and you'll end up looking foolish. If you had any evidence to the contrary, to support your claims, then you would have no difficulty obtaining it and you would provide it. You will probably respond that you're not going to waste your time on such silly, childish games, however, I would think that a reasonable person, upon realizing that such horrendous claims have been published on the Internet, would want to disprove them. And yes, the things you've done ARE horrendous. What kind of person would attempt to self-terminate a pregnancy, 5 months in? Fox