Your loving home and parental teaching and guidance
Good morning, Desiree.
I'd like to inquire how things have been going with all the wonderful stuff that you are able to teach and expose Gabriel to which I, according to you, could not do. In particular, how has that emphasis on "family" been working out? Have you been able to instill in him the importance of "family" and how good it is to have "family"? Would you say he's "bonded" with your family? And knowing your family - is it your belief that that has improved him in some way? These are loaded and/or sarcastic questions. I already know the answers to them (otherwise I woudln't be asking), and I wouldn't expect you to answer them, not honestly anyway - given your aversion to reality and honesty.
From what's been reported to me and from my own observations, so far all you've taught Gabriel is poor table manners and how to mimic the people around you rather than having your own opinion. An important skill, I suppose, if you live in an environment where people get angry with you for being different. Say, for example, your home.
Are you still trying to convince yourself that you have the perfect little family? Are you beginning to realize, yet, that Gabriel's presence there is slowly eroding the happy, fair tale home that you're trying to hold on to?
I know that by saying this you will react to spite me - it's what you people do. Am I saying it deliberately, for that purpose? Is it that I know that you're getting fed up with how he's ruining your fair tale and you've been having thoughts of sending him away before he starts to taint Sage as well - and by stating these truths to you I will provoke you to hang in there a little longer, so you can show me how wrong I am? Probably. The longer Gabriel is there, with his "bad attitude", his indifference toward you and Sage and your family, and his subtle demeanor of disgust and condescencion toward you and Sage and your mother, and your trashy ways, the more it will instill into Sage's subconscious that he is inferior and inadequate. The more it will slowly eat away at your perfect family.
Sucks! Now, on the one hand, you are pulled by your upbringing and years of conditioning, to react in the only way you know: with anger and spite, to want to keep Gabriel there because you believe that will adversely affect me; while on the other hand, you know I'm right and that I've been manipulating the situation for two years, and that as long as Gabriel is in your home you will never be happy because you will never have your fairy tale.
So, you'll show this email to your mother and ask her what you should do. She's going to say I'm just trying to get under your skin and the best thing is to not respond at all. She'll say that if you don't respond then I'll think you're unaffected and that will piss me off. She'll say this because she's just like you - after all, where did you learn your behavior from, right? And just like you she has the same emotional, irrational beliefs that a child inherently and unconditionally loves his mother.
But!!! I am relying on your mother providing you such advice. And on you pretending you don't care and that you're unaffected. I require you to insist on keeping Gabriel with you longer - the longer he's with you the more of an effect he'll have on Sage and the more subconscious hostility will seep into your home.
In the end you'll take your mother's advice and not respond to this, you'll convince yourself (with your mother's help) that everything is fine in your home and that I'm the one trying to cause problems for you. Or am I saying that because I believe you'll do the opposite of what I state you'll do - just to spite me?
Let me ask you this in closing: Has the amount of "love" in your home increased or decreased over the past year? It's rhetorical - I know the answer.
Fox
Desiree:
Allow me to also point out: Having previously waived, in court, *all* of my parental rights, you now have the full legal right and authority to:
- refuse to allow Gabriel to visit me;
- take away the phone and every other thing I have provided him, including the debit and credit cards (although you do not have the legal right to withhold them - you must return them to me);
- cut off all contact and communication between Gabriel and me.
Doing so would definitely prevent me from being able to have any influence on his perceptions, values, beliefs, et cetera and, thereby prevent me from being able to have any influence on your home environment and the relationship between you and him. However, doing so would also make him hate you that much more and ensure that he leaves your home at the first opportunity and never has anything to do with you for the rest of your life.
So, you see, again, we've created a situation where you have two mutually exclusive options but neither of them do ends favorably for you. That is strategy, and the benefit of long term planning, and the benefit of foresight. Remember also, that all of this was initiated by, and is the result of your own actions. I am where I am because of your direct and explicit actions; Gabriel now has Canadian citizenship and cannot be deported from Canada and receives all of the benefits and protections of being a Canadian citizen the moment his foot touches Canadian soil - all because of your actions calling ICE. And you can say that I've been manipulating Gabriel but that's exactly what you have done countless times with almost everybody you've ever met (that's why people always take your side when they hear your side of the story but then abandon you when they discover the full story).
I'd also like to point out that, as always, I've been very careful to make sure everything I do is within the law.
I've discussed all of this with Gabriel and I've explained to him what my plan is with respect to you. I've told him if he's uncomfortable with any of it then I won't proceed. He is fully aware that he is being used as a pawn in my plan to ruin your life and he seems to be okay with it.
All the best,
Fox
Ricky / Richard / Morgan / Parick / Patricia / Susan / whatever your chosen alias is today,
Are you bored or something? Your stalker-like obsession with me is truly impressive. The amount of time and energy spent thinking of me is flattering, but honestly a little pathetic. For someone who so strongly espouses logic and intelligence, I would think that you could have grasped that I am not interested in you. Especially since I have directly told you that I am not interested in you. I realize that I am really amazing, but please expend some of that energy towards finding a man / woman / inanimate object that is capable of coping with your delusional nature, and providing some small measure of happiness. Everyone has a right to the pursuit of happiness. Though that is a founding principal of America, so I understand it being foreign to a Canadian citizen like yourself.
Your obsessive pursuit of my attention seems to only pale in comparison to your capacity for delusional transference, and cruelty towards Gabriel.
It is unfortunate that you chose to rob Gabriel of his right and opportunity to choose for himself which parent to live with. You relinquished all rights a mere 2 months from his 14th birthday where he would have been able to declare his choice in front of everyone in open court. It doesn't surprise me given your repeated underestimation of his intelligence and potential; simply seeing him as a pawn and tool to use in your obsessive quest to win me back. ("destroy me" ... Whatever you want to call it.)
I love Gabriel regardless of what decision he should ultimately make. I know he is capable of so much, and will support him down whatever path he should ultimately choose in whatever capacity I am able. I may be hard on Gabriel sometimes, but being a real parent means looking out for the physical, mental, and emotional well being of your child even when it isn't easy or popular.
I can only hope that one day you decide to strive to be a better person, and better parent. If not for yourself, for Gabriel's sake. He is the one being hurt by your actions, scheming, and manipulation.
~ Desiree (Not meant as a term of endearment, please do not mistakenly take it that way.)
As always, I shall address each of your statements and point out, as plainly as possible, why/how it is wrong.
I don't get your intended implication here. How is my first name, whether assumed or legal, relevant to anything in my previous message and, in particular, whether I am on schedule with my plan against you? An insult is much more effective when the intended recipient is able to infer the reference. Please clarify.
Bored: no. Or something: vague and ambiguous. Please be more specific.
If there is any sincerity in your statements then you have grossly misinterpreted my intentions. I was pretty direct when I told Detective Tuchfarber that my intention was to do everything in my power and capabilities to make your life as miserable as possible, and, if possible, to the point that you ultimately commit suicide. That would be my ultimate desire. But before you reach that point it is imperative that you experience as much misery, disappointment, and suffering as possible first. At this point in your life you have very little to lose so there is not much incentive for me to actively publish your information. I shall wait, patiently, until you rise up a bit, THEN proceed with the billboard campaign around Phoenix; I'll wait until you actually have some financial significance, THEN publish your complete credit and financial history - including your social security number and birth certificate (not illegal as long as it's done outside the US).
I don't see how you could interpret such intentions as being misguided affection.
Whether or not you are interested in me is not relevant to my objectives.
I see no evidence to suggest there is any merit to your implication that I am delusional. If you know of any then please cite them. Otherwise you're just talking gibberish again.
Almost every country in the world includes in their respective constitutions and/or bill of rights the right to the pursuit of happiness. I wish I could say it is because you are an ignorant American that you do not realize that, but that fact that you were born on US soil has nothing to do with the fact that you are clearly ignorant.
You again bring up the question of citizenship. Why? You are the only one pretending to still cling to that claim. When I show up at border crossings with my US birth certificate and BC photo ID US customs and ICE don't even give me a second thought.
But, I'll play along, for the sake of argument: Let's assume your claim that I am a Canadian citizen is true. So? What's your point? Are you trying to suggest that a person born on US soil is inherently superior to someone who wasn't? By that logic then Lauchner and Michael Capuano are automatically superior to me. Charles Manson, Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez are superior to every single person ever born in Canada? That's some pretty sketchy reasoning. And let's pretend for a moment that I AM a Canadian citizen: that hasn't, and still doesn't prevent me from living in the US. I own a business in the US. So, again, what are you trying to imply?
Again, you're making claims about my psychological state without citing a single case of me ever exhibiting delusional behavior. At least when I call you delusional I refer your to a specific thing you did which supports my claim.
Come again? I was the one initially requested Gabriel be interviewed by the court so he can tell the court where he wants to live. You then attempted to circumvent that by having me deported. I then ordered my attorney to request the court put the interview back on calendar. Then, when Gabriel was given the chance, he clearly, explicitly, and very unequivocally told the court he wants to return to me...to live with me.
See that? That is a case of you exhibiting delusional behavior. You're accusing ME of doing exactly what you have, and continue to do. THAT's delusional.
I relinquished my rights so that I can remove the court from the equation. So that I can proceed with my plans respecting you. It's hard to do that when I have to maintain appearances for the court.
You are unsurprisingly misinformed about the significance of Gabriel turning 14. There is no statutory age, in either California or Arizona, at which the court is required to grant the child the living arrangement the child desires. It is completely at the discretion of the court. "Generally" after the age of 14 the court will "listen" to what the child wants - but that's the extent of the law on the matter.
I also point out, waiving one's rights does not mean refusing one's responsibilities. Though you seem to think they are one and the same. I did not refuse to allow Gabriel to return to live with me - I created a situation where he can see, firsthand, what you would be like in the absense of the court compelling you to act. And so far you've played right into it.
As I have explained to him: sometimes, to get the desired outcome, we have to go through a period of challenges. That is what he is going through right now. I believe the exact idiom I used was "Sometimes, to make an omlette you have to break a few eggs".
I explained what that meant and how it applied to the current situation. He acknowledged understanding.
If that is the case then why do you insist on not allowing him to make that decision? He already has: he said he wants to come and live with me. He has expressed that if he never heard from you again he's fine with that.
It's already been more than 2 years...what do you believe is going to happen? Do you think one day he's going to wake up and realize that he was wrong all this time and suddenly love you unconditionally? Again, I say, THAT is delusional! Dude, the fact that since the July hearing, since you've gotten full custody and authority over him he has steadily withdrawn from you and that other kid of yours should tell you something. Before that he could hold on to the hope that at the next hearing the court would order you to return him. That hope is gone. I really don't know what you are hoping for, but your relationship with Gabriel has reached it's peak and the only place it's going from here is down. There's less than two years until he can legally move out and I'm willing to bet that within 24 hours of turning 16 you'll never hear from him again.
As for "love": unless you can provide a clear definition of what the word means then you should refrain from using it.
You are completely oblivious to anything going on with Gabriel. I just spoke to him on the phone - you still haven't even noticed the anomoly in his eye. You live in the same house with him and he's been back for 8 days and you haven't noticed. You also didn't notice it before he came up here. How can you not notice a bright discoloration in his eye? Do you not speak with him? Do you not look him in the eye when you do (assuming you do speak with him)?
You add him to your insurance but you don't bother taking him to the doctor or the dentist (you only do it when you think I'm going to bring it up in court). Dental cleaning and checkups are supposed to be every 6 months, not every 12. He wasn't in the habit of using deodarant - I had to point out to him one day that he smelled of BO. He still often "forgets" to brush his teeth. He doesn't know how to get from your place to the Target, which is only a few blocks away. When given the choice of doing the research to figure out how to get to the outdoor shooting range, or not go, he chose not to do the research. Is that the result of your "real parenting"?
I strive, on a daily basis, to improve myself. I strive to be objective and fair, and to be reasonable and rational. I consider myself to be fair and decent. The people I come in contact with, exclusive of you, of course, also consider me such.
You're still making the same unfounded arguments that you've been making since 2011. You're the one that has to use underhanded tactics and false claims to get what you want. I'm referring to you resorting to calling ICE in order to gain custody by default. See, when Gabriel's with me he's with me because he *wants* to be. I've never once had to force him or tell him he has to visit because the court ordered it. You, on the other hand, have done exactly that. You claim to want what's best for Gabriel, yet you teach him nothing. You think hugs and kisses will make everything okay (again, that's delusional).
It is my opinion that if anyone needs to work on being a better person it is you.
Both I, and Gabriel, are happy with who I am, with how I behave, with my values and beliefs. If I identify a character or personality flaw in myself then I will commit to improving it.
You act the same now as you did in 2000. You still try to use people's guilt and pitty to manipulate them. You tell people half truths and versions of events which are heavily skewed in your favor, to gain their support. That's deceptive. That's completely contrary to how I try to live and how I try to guide Gabriel. You can deny that you do that until you're blue in the face but I've got over 400 emails from you and/or about you where you've done that countless times.
You rush into relationships with losers like Lauchner and Capuano, you move in with them, you hastily have children with them. You expose your children to people like Lauchner and tell them he's a good, wonderful person. You allow him to take on a paternal role in their lives. You defend his behavior and get angry when people state facts about him. Yet you want to pretend you're a good, honorable person? And that you give a shit about your children?
Gabriel is not being hurt at all by what I am doing. He knew before I started executing the plan exactly what the plan was/is. I always confer with him beforehand so that he's not taken by surprise. If he told me he was uneasy with anything I would not proceed with that course. I told him in May I would be waiving all of my parental rights in July. I told him why. If he had concerns about me wouldn't he bring them to you? You're his primary custodial parent, aren't you? When he's with me we talk about you. Are you saying that he has such a lack of respect for you that he can't even speak openly with you about me? If that's that case then it really sucks to be you.
He once asked me if I would shoot you. I told him that murder is illegal and immoral and can result in spending the rest of one's life in prison. And that the rest of my life in prison is not a risk I'm willing to take. But otherwise, no, I would have no qualms about it; that that is how much I despise you for the things you've done and continue to do. He did not flinch; he didn't look anything other than indifferent; as best I could tell, he didn't care. The topic never came up again. That was during his visit last summer. To be clear, I told Tuchfarber the same thing. There is nothing illegal or threatening about wanting to harm someone - as long as you don't act on it. I am reasonable and rational enough to know the difference, and to refrain from engaging in such activity.
And let me be absolutely clear on this point: I would never deliberately cause you physical harm, other than in self defense or defense of another. Though that is nothing special toward you - I have that rule for ALL people. Also, I emphasize that Gabriel brought up the question and I only responded to it truthfully.
I don't understand your meaning.
I'm still not sure what your current fake ID supported by falsified documents happens to be, so I will address you as Sally.
Sally,
I would genuinely address your response if it had any merit, or purpose other than to allow you to lash out like the impotent child that you constantly prove yourself to be.
However, considering you regularly spout outright lies and subjective opinions as fact with no true supporting evidence or basis in reality, (likely when you are drunk and/or high and lonely) I will simply show your thoughts the amount of consideration they deserve.
Grow up, and have a nice night Sally.
Regards (of some sort) (but again, not affection... Don't misunderstand),
Desiree
Desiree:
See, there you go again, making unfounded claims against me. Not only unfounded, but contrary to the actual physical evidence. What basis do you have to claim that my ID is fake or that it was supported by falsified documents? Obviously you've made no attempt to verify the authenticity of any of them. You can verify the PAL with a quick call to the RCMP; you can verify the birth certificate with a call to Florida Vital Statistics. Hell, you can even call ICE and inquire about the status of my case. Why don't you call ICE and inform them that my name is actually Patrick Fox? Oh, you already told them that before January 2013 - they asked me about it during the interrogation. Do you question the validity of the PAL? Every time I buy a handgun or any ammo I have to provide the PAL and the store has to verify it with the RCMP. If I have firearms in Canada, without a PAL, that's like 15 years in prison or some crazy shit. If you really believe the crap that you say then why don't you report me to the RCMP? If the PAL is fake then I'll go to prison. If it was obtained with false information then it'll be taken away and I'll probably still go to prison.
But you're not going to do that because you know you're full of it. You know my ID was obtained legitimately. And you know my true legal, and birth name is indeed Patrick Fox. If you really believed it was not then you would have tried to have me arrested for whatever nonsense you're claiming. And don't say you "wouldn't do that to Gabriel" - of course you would - you already have. Moreover, if my ID and my PAL was fraudulently obtained then that means that I am perpetually in the commission of numerous felonies...and you knowingly allowed Gabriel to be in my care not only while committing those felonies, but while illegally transporting, handling and operating firearms (illegal if what you say is true).
Don't you see how incredibly stupid you keep making yourself look? I wish I could include all the recipients of these messages as CC rather than BCC so you can see how many people regularly get a good laugh at the obtuse things you claim (but they've asked not to be disclosed).
As for calling me Sally: if that makes you happy then go for it. I suppose the intention is to suggest I am a woman or womanly. Is that supposed to hurt my feelings? How 'bout if you call me Vickie, instead? I kind of like Vickie better than Sally.
Again, you accuse me of "regularly" spouting lies. I recall challenging you on that numerous times and you failing to be able to actually present any cases of me lying. Has that changed? Can you actually recall a specific instance of me lying? Are you going to say I lied in court when I said my name is Patrick Fox? So, I provide physical proof that that IS my legal name and you say that the documents are forged? Get real!
As for "subjective opinions": all opinions are subjective - that's kind of what makes them opinions. Otherwise, they'd be facts. And you were actually able to graduate with a bachelors degree? Oh, right, from the University of Phoenix...not from a REAL university. I'm sorry.
So, government issued photo ID is not acceptable as proof of identity to you? Well, it's good enough for the RCMP, and it's good enough for US Border Patrol, ICE, and the TSA. So, I guess you're shit outta luck there.
I don't get lonely. I don't use drugs or get high.
Why do you tell me to grow up? In what way am I acting immaturely? It seems, on my end, I'm just having a calm, rational discussion. It seems to me that you're the one getting worked up and flinging irrelevant, unfounded allegations like a child.
Why do you end your email with a declaration that there is no affection intended? Do you think I might not be aware of that? Do you think I have anything but disgust for you and people like you (trashy, ghetto recipients)? It almost seems more like you're trying to convince yourself of the things you say, than anybody else.
Let me tell you a story about something that happened on Gabriel's latest visit. I noticed, since he's been with you he's picked up some trashy habits. Lately, when he's eating, he's been picking his teeth with his fingernail - a truly revolting white trash mannerism. Normally, I try to break him of trashy habits right away, but I didn't want to seem nagging so I kept silent. Then, a few days later, we were watch Family Guy and Lois was doing that during dinner, and Stewie said to Brian how disgusting she was, picking her teeth with her finger right there are the table. Talking down to her for being all trashy. Gabriel immediately broke that habit. A couple days later I asked him if it was because of what Stewie said - you smiled and said yeah. You see, it's not just me manipulating Gabriel against you - it's also Seth Macfarlane and Stewie and everyone else that hates white trash people. You're just so gross.
Let me point out something obvious to you: you are in what is called, in legal terms, the "superior position" because Gabriel is in your custody and you have complete authority over all matters pertaining to him. The fact that you still get so worked up over what I say or what's going on in my life, and that you still feel the need to make claims like my ID is all fake, and calling me girl's names, is a pretty darn strong indication that either A) you've got serious mental problems, or B) you're the one that won't let go. Remember when we last spoke on the phone? Who was the one that was yelling and throwing accusations? Who's the one that hang up? Not me. I was calm and indifferent. Because I don't really care about you. I enjoy this email correspondence because it creates a written record for me to publish. One day Sage will be able to go on the Internet and read them. Every time you apply for a job or meet a guy that you like, I'll be there to make sure they're fully informed of who you really are. That is why I engage you in these delightful conversations.
Fox
P.S. When making your ridiculous claims about me you should remember that what other people are thinking is "Yeah, but you married the guy and had a kid with him. What does that say about you?" You're really not too bright, are you?
Perry(I assume that is a possible next Alias for you),
Good morning, sunshine! (Again, not a term of endearment.)
I would read the entire novel [above], but when the first paragraph immediately begins with "fun facts" that diverge from reality, I know that it isn't worth my time. I never mentioned your false Alias, let alone stated it as a factual name to ICE. If you had a conversation about that during your interrogation for breaking the law and being here illegally, then that has nothing to do with me.
I wonder (and so does your Rabbi, by the way) if all of your angsty hatred even really relates to me at all. Facts and reality seem to be relative with you, and it is quite troublesome.
I also wonder... Do you fold your hands and cackle malevolently when you talk about "destroying" me?It seems a bit over the top; much like all of these sad and pathetic emails you keep sending me.
Also, hello to the folks reading at home via BCC. Hopefully you all find Ricky/Perry's tantrums as amusing and pathetic as I do. :)
~Desiree
Desiree:
You still have not provided any explanation or cited any references to specific actions on my part, or provided any supporting evidence for any of your claims that I am, or have ever, been dishonest with you. Until you are able to do so you should stop making such claims because you sound like a child in a school yard shouting "I know you are but what am I".
If you did not inform ICE of my birth name and that I was born in Florida then that means they must have already had that information in my file - which means they knew, officially, during the time they were holding me in custody. Prior to that point I had never mentioned Florida or the name Patrick Fox to them. You understand if I choose not to believe you, right?
To which rabbi do you refer? I do not currently have a rabbi with which I confer. I shall presume you are not actually referring to ANY rabbi and are just making stuff up again.
No, I don't cackle. I don't believe I have ever cackled. Cackling is unbecoming. I use the terms "destroy" and "ruin" because they are both vague and innocuous; they convey the intending meaning without the possibility of being interpreted as being a threat of physical harm. If you know of a more appropriate term feel free to let me know and I shall consider using it instead.
Now, let's shift the discussion to you. The reason you have responded to all of the messages I have sent over the past day or so, and that you have done so expeditiously, is because you know, though you will not openly admit, that the things I have said are true. In particular:
- you've failed to make Gabriel love and/or respect you;
- you know Gabriel still wants to return to living with me and that the moment he does return, he will have no interest in maintaining any further relationship with you;
- you know Gabriel has not acclimated to your environment and your way of life and that he never will;
- you know Gabriel looks down on you and Sage as being white trash that is below him;
- you know that these are all things I told you would happen, long before you took Gabriel to Phoenix, and you insisted I was wrong.
The reason you feel compelled to respond to my statements is because it angers you that I'm right and I've been right all along and your pride is hurt because you know that I know that you're wrong. If you had any amount of confidence that Gabriel was happy with you and that he had even the smallest amount of affection for you then you would be indifferent to what I'm saying.
And now, let's talk about this fixation you have with citizenship. Why do you keep trying to make it an issue? Whether I'm a US citizen as I say, or a Canadian citizen as you say - do you think that makes any difference to me? Or to where I am or where I live? Why do you think that I would have any personal interest at all in having US citizenship? If I'm really not a US citizen I could have gotten US citizenship when we were together. Why wouldn't I have? Either I have no interest in being a US citizen or I already am a US citizen. Either way, it's clearly not something that has importance to me, so I don't understand why you keep trying to use that as a way to try to insult me. Moreover, you're talking about citizenship by virtue of location of birth - that's such an incredibly arbitrary factor. It would take such a small minded person to think that the geographic location of a person's birth would have any bearing on who they are. But then, YOU do think that way, don't you? I can only figure that you keep trying to make citizenship an issue because you have nothing else that you can try to "hurt" me with. That's pretty sad for you.
Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that I decided I wanted to move back to LA and that I was a Canadian citizen. Do you think that not being a US citizen would stop me? Do you not think that if I wanted to be living in the US right now I would be? I mean, even if all of your claims about me were true, do you think DHS has the resources to constantly be looking for non-violent, non-dangerous, white, english speaking illegals that may or may not be in the country? Come on, Desiree, you can't be that stupid.
Anyway, you can continue to make strange comments about citizenship if it makes you feel better. I'm just curious why you keep trying to insult me by claiming something that is so plainly irrelevant. It would be like me trying to insult you by saying you're not really blonde.
Fox
P.S. You're attempts to insult me with this name thing fall into the same category as the citizenship thing - I don't much care whether you believe my legal name is Patrick Fox or Richard Riess. It just doesn't really have any relevance to anything in my life (what you believe, I mean). Feel free to continue calling me arbitrary names if that helps you sleep at night.
Raymond,
Again, your capacity for transference and random accusations is truly impressive. Go ahead and take that as a compliment if you like. (But not something I'm attracted by, so let me be clear.)
Citing evidence with you is pointless, but let's go with some low hanging fruit. It is pretty simple, but I'll go slow so that you can follow. Please try to pay attention. If you truly are Patrick Fox, you lied about your identity to me, presented a false name on legal documents. Including Gabriel's Birth Certificate. If Patrick Fox is your fake identity, then you are "being dishonest" right now. That was some pretty simple logic backed by examples. Let me know if you need me to diagram in Crayon for you.
As you have repeatedly failed to provide evidence that you are not a member of a subhuman species previously thought to be mythical such as a Morlock, I do not feel that I am required to respond or read your tantrum further.
What is it like being so wrong and self-assured all the time? Does it feel blissful? Does it remind you of home? You know... The trailer park that you grew up in?
~ Desiree
Desiree:
I've already explained this to you (and the court) numerous times, but you either have a very short memory or very small comprehension, so I'll explain it again. Before the passing of the PATRIOT act it was legally acceptable for a person to change their name by assuming a new name and becoming commonly, or generally, known by that name. Having utility bills, pay stubs, et cetera in that new name was sufficient, over time, for that name to become one's "legal name". So, prior to the passing of the PATRIOT act, Richard Riess was my legal name as the term was defined at that time. After the passing of the PATRIOT act the various levels of government no longer accepted that as a recognized method changing one's name and, as such, my legal name reverted to my birth name.
Therefore, there was no lie and you are, as always, incorrect.
You are also incorrect about me growing up in a trailer park. I grew up in government housing - the projects, not a trailer park.
Fox
José,
I know this is difficult for you, but please try to focus and pay attention here. Think really hard... Make that squinty face you make when that hamster is doing his best to move the wheel inside your head. You asked for an example of when you had been dishonest with me. The patriot act has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the conversation. Further, is not true and does not apply.
I suppose that sort of logic is why you were thrown in prison by a federal judge for perjury. Perjury happens to be a noun. Perjury is defined as, "the offense of willfully telling an untruth in a court after having taken an oath of affirmation." Translation: lying. That is another example. I've now provided you with two examples that you requested. You are welcome.
Please don't make me break out the crayon diagram as it only serves to further degrade you.
You know what people from the projects and people in trailer parks have in common? They are both... How did you put it? From the lower echelon of society. Though the ones who grow up there just never seem to get out of the shadow.
As a disclaimer to keep you from being confused now and in the future: When I do not respond to you in part or in whole it means that you are so wrong and delusional that it isn't even worth my time to respond. You'll just pull something delusional (likely something you yourself are guilty of or feeling guilty about) from some orifice and present it as if it were a truth.
Allow me to apply some Richard logic to this conversation. Do you know why you are spending this inordinate amount of time responding to me? Because Cuthulu is masterminding a conspiracy against you to force you to initiate pointless conversations with someone you obviously hold a high level of contempt (and unrequited love) for. Also...space aliens. See? I even tied in your persecution complex. Again. You are welcome.
~Desiree
Desiree:
Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 1621, states as follows:
Whoever—
(1) having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any *material matter* which he does not believe to be true; or (2) in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true; is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This section is applicable whether the statement or subscription is made within or without the United States.
Do you see the use of the term "material matter" there in paragraph (1)? Do you know what "material matter" means? It means a matter which is relevant to the issue at hand. The issue at hand was whether or not I was a US citizen. The name I provided to the court was NOT material to the question of my citizenship and so, did not rise to the level of being perjury. With respect to my statement to that immigration court that I was, at the time the statement was made, a US citizen - that was clearly NOT perjurous as is proven by the fact that the US government has since provided me my US birth certificate and the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution guarantees that any person born within the United States shall be a citizen of the United States. SLAM, BITCH!
As for me telling you, that my name was Richard Riess:
Section 1279.5 of the California Code of Civil Procedure states:
(a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), (c), (d), or (e), nothing in this title shall be construed to abrogate the common law right of any person to change his or her name.
Which means that in California any person may change their name legally under "common law" - in other words, by adopting a new name. Which is what I did in 1993 - 1996. At that time there was no requirement that government issued ID bear only the name stated on the person's birth certificate. Therefore, when we were together, and prior to the Patriot Act, my legal name (under California law) was Richard Riess. And therefore I did not lie to you at that time. Again, I saw: Fucking SLAM!
Section 326 of the Patriot Act improses, amongst many other things, regulations on financial institutions with respect to identity documentation required by their customers. The regulations require that only the "legal name" as defined by federal law (not state law) may be used and that only specific forms of identification may be used to establish the identity of the account holder. From the Patriot Act came the REAL ID act of 2005, which imposed even stricter requirements on the issuance of identification documents by the states. Upon accepting the REAL ID act California could no longer issue ID with any name other than that which is on the person's birth certificate. This effectively makes California's section 1279.5 irrelevant if a person wants to have any kind of government issued photo ID. So, again, you are completely fucking wrong.
As for me now saying my legal name is Patrick Fox: Since neither the US government nor the Canadian government accepts common law name changes any more then they will only allow me to use the name as it is stated on my birth certificate - unless I go through the formal, court based legal name change - which I have no interest in bothering with. And so, yet again, I did not lie and your a fucking idiot!
And your stupid comments about crayons and diagrams just make you look that much more moronic. It's people like you that make me embarrassed to be American. When people go on about "stupid Americans" they must be referring to you.
I'm not going to bother with the rest of your message because you just insist on proving what a misinformed and ignorant imbecile you are. Why don't you do a little research before you provide such stupid, misguided responses.
Anyway, I have flight to catch in the morning so you're on your own for the rest of the week. I've accomplished what I've set out to with this thread so I don't think there's anything further to say.
Fox
Gary,
I am glad that you have learned how Google and copy paste work. That is precious, and I would pat your head like the good boy that you are if you were here. A for effort! However, you have once again failed to read. F for comprehension. The alias is tied to the root of the issue, which is legal status. Given that you were actually put in prison by someone whose job it is to interpret and enforce laws, you were in non-compliance. Not only were you wrong as you are right now, but you were punished for it. Were you the catcher?
Further, the request you made of me was to provide a specific example and evidence that you have been dishonest with me. State and other laws are non-applicable and irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Have you openly lied? The answer is plainly yes.
Your delusions and failure to comprehend complex thoughts aside, there is actually something relevant for us to discuss. Gabriel would like to attend a 2-day school camp. The cost for this is $110 dollars. If he does not attend, he will be made to sit in a class and perform whatever tasks are given to those who could not attend. Would you prefer the money go on his debit card or credit card? In the absence of a valid response, I will infer consent for the debit card.
Please don't feel embarrassed for too long as there is good news! You are not American. Phwhew! That must be a huge relief to you. I'll forgoe the simple diagram for now, but if you are still as confused as you seem to be, I'll go ahead and provide it.
You have most definitely achieved your goal with this thread if it's purpose was to amuse me and instill a sense of pitty for you and all those I have shared this with. (The kind of pitty generally shown to angry kittens.)
All sniping aside, you really should get out in the world and do something that makes you happy. Make a friend, get laid... Whatever you need to do to relieve that stress and right your head again. That may be the first step to you being a better person. Or a person at all as you have not provided me evidence that you are not some form of subhuman. Like a mole person.
~ Desiree
I never went to prison. I was released from the detention center immediately after the trial. Strange huh?
You're reasoning about the connection between the name and the citizenship is flawed. There is no case law to support your argument. You would make a terrible lawyer. Apparently the UoP doesn't teach reasoning skills.
The rest of your email is incoherent nonsense that I won't validate with a response.
Gotta go catch my flight. I'll be in San Fran the rest of the week. Better call ICE:)
Cheers, idiot (not an insult, just a statement of fact based on your exemplary reasoning skills),
Fox
P.S. The level of overcompensation in your sarcasm makes it obvious that you ARE angry and hurt (due to your insecurity) and you DO NOT believe the points you repetitiously over emphasize. I would recommend, again, that you invest in some psychology textbooks to better understand yourself.
Desiree:
I have a few minutes, so I'll point out another way you're wrong about the alleged lies you've attempted to cite:
In 2007, when I stated in the Immigration Court, that my name was Richard Riess, it was, in fact, Richard Riess under the California common law. All of my ID, issued by the State of California and the State of Arizona had the name Richard Riess on it and I had been using the name Richard Riess exclusively for the prior 11 years. It was not until I came to Canada and the Canadian government refused to allow me continue to use the name Richard Riess unless I formally changed it from Patrick Fox and the US government and the State of California also then began refusing to allow me to continue using Richard Riess, that I decided it would be easier to just go back to using Patrick Fox. So, you see, I didn't lie about my name in the Immigration Court.
If the day ever arrives that you are right about something that we're disputing, it will be a special day, indeed.
Good day,
Fox
Denise,
Thanks for playing. You are and were wrong, and are trying to back-pedal your way out it now. I'd have thought you were used to being wrong by no, but with what a sore loser you are being. Your "not lying" in open court must surely be why you were jailed for purgery. Yup... Makes total sense.
Nice that you subconsciously feel so guilty about your lies that you continue to respond. That and your stalker like obsessive devotion to me. Let me just saw, "ewww!" Please try to listen to me when I say that I am not and never will be interested in you. Ever.
I know you love talking to me, but unless you have some actual business pertaining to Gabriel, You should really go do something productive more productive. Perhaps something other than attempting to reinvent History and reality yet again.
~Desiree
Desiree:
Please tell me how I am backpeddling. Nothing that I'm saying now is in any way inconsistent with what I've said previously.
On the issue of lying and the perjury conviction: which part are you having difficulty understanding? The statement which was allegedly perjurous was that I was a US citizen. Nothing more or less. The same government that charged and convicted me of that has since provided me a US birth certificate. That birth certificate means I am a US citizen...which means my statement under oath could not possibly have been perjurous...which means under the doctrine of "actual innocence" the conviction was void. Are you following me so far? Am I speaking too fast for you? Why do you keep bringing up the perjury conviction when it is no longer an issue that is in dispute? It's as pointless as your insistence on bringing up whether or not I'm a US citizen. Are you, maybe, thick or something?
And, if you right and I'm lying then why doesn't ICE arrest me and the US Attorney prosecute me for illegal reentry (Title 8 USC section 1326)? Why do they keep letting me go? Why do they keep letting me go down to Blaine to buy Marlboros (which you can't get in Canada)? You know for a fact, of at least 2 occurrances of that happening.
The rest of your message is irrelevant and not worth replying to.
Now is as good a time as any to point out that I know that whatever I tell you I believe you're going to do, you will try to do the opposite. It is your fairly impotent way of spiting me. Like your remarks suggesting that I have some type of emotional attraction to you. Given that, I think you should be able to figure out my motive in corresponding with you, no? I am steering you, slowly and meticulously, in the direction I want your life to go. Before I write anything in an email to you I ask myself: What would I have to say to make her do "x"? And then I consider: What is the probability that she will respond in any given way? From that I structure an email with the appropriate amount of backhanded compliments, vailed insults, arrogance and condescension to provoke you into making decisions that will move you in the direction I want you to go. I would like to provide you concrete examples but that would, unfortunately, influence your decision making process moving forward - thereby undermining my strategies.
Now go ahead and scoff at the above paragraph and tell yourself your fine. Remind yourself that you've been handling things just fine and I'm just full of shit. :)
Cheers chubby!
Fox
Bill,
Most of what you say is inconsistent with previous statements and actions. You are a habitual liar, but at least it is consistent. You have that going for you, I guess. That and mommy issues and a knack for transference. Oh and a stalkerish obsession with me. See? I guess one could say you have a lot going for you.
I'm not having difficulty understanding anything, but thank you for checking. Do you happen to have documentation of this supposed over turned conviction? Did you Happen to receive a certificate of actual innocence? I'd be interested to see a copy... Though I'm sure it will be forged/fraudulent along with the rest of your documentation. Criminals and liars are criminals and liars.
So you were "provided" with a birth certificate? Like when someone gets a number at a Deli counter? Did you get some cold cuts and do a victory dance at the time this supposed birth certificate was "provided"? Was there a long line? Were you on Meth at the time again?
Do you call ICE to notify them of your intent to enter illegally? If not, I'd assume it is simply because you have yet to be caught in violation. If you'd like to test that theory, please feel free to provide me with an itinerary at least 2 weeks in advance of your next intended illegal trip state side.
~ Desiree
Desiree:
Please provide a concrete example of something I have said that has been inconsistent with anything I have said or did since January 2011. If you are going to make such claims then you have to be able to cite specific cases. Otherwise, your just talking shit.
Please provide specific examples of me making excessive false statements (preferably statements to you) which would support your claim that I am a "habitual liar". If you cannot then there is no merit to your claim.
Please explain the basis of your claim that I have "mommy issues".
Please provide examples of "stalkerish" behavior. Since I am 1500 miles away I find it difficult to believe there could be any credibility to that claim.
You say you're not having difficulty understanding - yet, you repeatedly revert to making claims based on incorrect information. You have tried to make the 14 year old claim on a number of occasions and each time I provided you proof that there your belief about the law was incorrect. But then, later, you'd bring it up again, as though the previous argument and my subsequent providing of proof never occurred. It sure seems to me that you're having difficulty with SOMETHING. Reality, perhaps? Memory, maybe?
Regarding proof of the vacating of the perjury conviction: that is not in my best interest at this time. I am taking advantage of res judicata. There is no statute of limitations on vacating a conviction on the grounds of "actual innocence" so there is no rush from my perspective. And, the conviction does not adversely affect me at the present.
One does not receive a "certificate" when a conviction is vacated. So, no, I do not have a certificate.
I'm not sure what you're alluding to in your paragraph about the birth certificate. Why do you insist on trying to use innuendos to make your points? Do you not realize that counter-intuitive? An innuendo, by definition, is NOT to the point.
I do not call ICE ahead of time. I just show up at the Peace Arch border crossing, like anyone else, present my ID they check it in the computer to make sure there are no flags or warrants, then they send me on my way.
Now, you see, in paragraph four you say "...of your intent to enter illegally." First: that statement is based on a false premise. I cannot call ICE and notify them of my intent to enter illegally because that is NOT my intent, and because my entry is NOT illegal. The question is phrased to solicit a yes/no answer, however, such a concise response cannot be provided because it is base on those false premises.
Next time I intend to travel to the US I will let you know two weeks in advance and you can test your theory.
Now, let's take a moment to point out how your remarks which seem to be intended to suggest that I am in some way lacking or inferior in intelligence consistently backfire on you - making you look the fool. You may recall, I dropped out of high school in grade 9. That means I only have a grade 8 (formal education). Which means all of the knowledge which I have which is above a grade 8 level MUST have been self taught. That includes, of course, absolutely everything I know about computers, software development, computer science, business, economics, sociology, psychology, biology, physics, et cetera. Anybody who is not an imbecile would agree that learning something on your own, with nothing more than books, is much more difficult and challenging than learning it in a classroom with the aid of a professor and peers. I have, by the age of 30, risen to the level of Senior Software Engineer and Lead Software Engineer on multiple projects. I am currently the lead server developer. In 2007, I was earning $85/hour on my various projects, while living in Phoenix. I am currently earning about $155,000 a year. You attended community college at the government's expense and obtained an associates degree in a program which no longer exists. Then you obtained a bachelors degree from an institution which is not REALLY a university (sorry, but any university which has more seats available than it has applicants for those seat is not REALLY a university now is it?). You're now making about, what, $76000 at the age of 34. I came from an environment with no family, living on streets, doing whatever to survive. You've been coddled and sheltered by your family and whoever you've been able to manipulate or guilt into helping you out. So, who's more impressive?
I've asked this before, but I shall reiterate: Please try to present more intelligent arguments.
Fox
Come on, dude. Why don't you just quit with those silly retorts? You're just embarrassing yourself. Haven't you ever heard the cliche "Its better to stay quiet and let people think you a fool than to open your mouth and prove it"?
Desiree:
I would also point out that what's relevant is lies between you and I. Lies that either of us have told to third parties (e.g. the immigration court) have no bearing on the level of trust between you and I.
This is why I have to state the seemingly obvious with you so often. Sometimes you're just not very smart.
Fox,
You are absolutely right, and I could not agree with you more. The key and initial point here is absolutely about mistrust and lies of a personal nature. Which I will again point out... You either lied to me about your name initially, or are lieing about it now. It really makes no difference which, as deceit is deceit.
That is what the whole point has been all along, actually. I'm glad you have finally caught up with the conversation. It sure seems to take you a while sometimes, but I guess with anyone who is as disjointed from reality as you are, some considerations need to be made.
Thank you for finally coming to terms. It feels good to be correct, doesn't it?
Desiree:
Here's something I DID lie to you about: my parental information. But that was 14 years ago.
As for the name: there has been no lie. When we were together I never stated that I had or hadn't changed my name. And you never asked. I never stated that my birth name was or wasn't Richard Riess - and you never asked. You just assumed. I am not responsible for what you assume. And withholding information is not lying.
Desiree:
This thing you do, where you continue to accuse someone of something even after you know without a doubt that you're wrong and that it's just completely, physically impossible that you could be right...it's the same thing the prosecutors and the DHS attorneys did for four years. Except when they do it they're just doing their jobs. They're attorneys, they're paid to argue their case - it doesn't matter if they're right or wrong.
But you're not an attorney and you're not in court. When you do it you just look like a fool.
Consider, if you will, in my forgery case: to the very end, the very day the prosecutor stood up in court and requested the case be dismissed, he insisted he had witnesses that positively ID me as being the person that cashed the checks. Even after he had to release the audio recordings of the witness interviews to me and I listened to them and I heard the witnesses clearly state that they could NOT remember what the person looked like - even knowing that I'd listened to those interviews conducted by that same prosecutor, he STILL sat at his table in the courtroom and looked down his nose at me, with condescencion and insisted his witnesses will positively ID me.
It was the same in the immigration court - ICE insisted that they got fingerprints from Canada that match mine. Those same fingerprints were given to the US Attorney as evidence in the perjury case. The fingerprints were never brought up in the trial - because the prosecutor discovered they didn't match mine. But still, to the very end they kept saying they have my fingerprints from Canada. Even though they knew that I knew they didn't match. They had to release them to me with discovery. And even after ICE and the federal prosecutor knew that the court appointed fingerprint analyst determined they were not my fingerprints, they STILL insisted they had my fingerprints from Canada.
So you see, what you're doing is nothing new to me. I sat in the Maricopa County jail for 15 months fighting that forgery case. They offered me time served and I turned it down. Because I knew I was right and I was innocent. I could have been out of Maricopa custody in 2 months instead of 15 but I wouldn't give in. ICE did the same thing: if I would just sign their confession then they'd let me go. But fuck that. So do you really think, that given my current circumstances, that if you just keep repeating yourself that I'll just give up and admit that you're right? You're on crack if you think that's that case.
Desiree:
You know, for someone (you) who pretends to be so confident in their psychological stability you sure are resistant to the idea of speaking with a psychologist at my expense. Why would that be, I wonder?