Your financial situation
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013, 8:35 AM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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Good morning, Desiree. I just want to let you know that, contrary to your recent claims about your financial situation being very dire, I don't believe that to be the case. I believe it is a ploy, on your part, to try to get me to have to spend as much money as possible - just another in your never ending games to be difficult, I suppose. I think your financial situation is no more dismal than it normally is. But, I think that you think that if I have to spend more money it will either cause me more complications, or discourage me from wanting to maintain a relationship with Gabriel. But, that's okay, go ahead with that course of action if it makes you feel better. The amount of money I spend on things has nothing to do with whether or not you contribute part of the financial responsibility, and I will make sure Gabriel's provided for even if I have to carry 100% of the load. Wait a second...when Gabriel was with me, you had the mentality that you shouldn't have to provide for his needs because he's not with you. And now that he's with you you have the mentality that I should have to provide for his needs...just how does that work in you mind? Cheers, Fox
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013, 4:00 PM, Desiree Capuano wrote:
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I'm not quite sure I understand. I never said I wouldn't pay child support to you, what I said was I wouldn't give you $700 a month just because you told me I had to. I said I would wait until the courts determined it and would pay what they said I had to. In the interim I bought Gabriel over $200 in clothes (albeit not from the store of your choosing), 5 pairs of shoes (that he picked out), new glasses, school supplies 2 years in a row, and carried the medical insurance. Plus birthday and Christmas presents. I haven't brought up anything related to finances recently aside the cost of the passport and plane tickets which you and your attorney stated you would pay for. You told me I could seek child support from you - I haven't even indicated I would. You're right, Apollo is not doing so well. They've made some changes over the last couple years which have caused them to have minimal revenue intake. As a resul their maximum raises are low. That's why my income hasn't really changed the last couple years. I have made changes to minimize my expenses (quit smoking cigarettes, my marajuana license has expired (I have no plans to renew it any time soon), I haven't smoked pot in a long time (because I will not spend money on it), I rarely drink, I never go out, I do buy groceries and make breakfast lunch and dinner for the 3 of us every day. I am working hard on getting to a position where I have some expendable money but it's not by taking it or demanding it from you or Michael. If I were to seek child support I would have no control over how much was assessed, but your "contribution" would be no more than $50 - $100 a week. Certainly not $700 as you stated you would need from me. I guess what I don't understand is where this is coming from. Has something else happened in the last 2 days to warrant this email from you?
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013, 10:24 PM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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I was going to respond...but I just don't care. You're so full of crap and delusional that it's impossible to have a reasonable conversation with you. You completely change your story from one email to the next, and you try to pretend you didn't say things, meanwhile I have a handful of emails from you where you say as plainly as possible that I will never see a dime from you (referring to child support). And now you claim that you never said you wouldn't pay child support? Whatever. Do you see how easy it was for me? I went to the bank...applied for a credit card...got a second one in Gabriel's name...sent it to him. The only unfortunate part is how long it took. Now he doesn't have to worry about financial needs and I can sleep easy knowing that he's okay, financially. Was there really ANY justification to all the stupid little games you played? How do you sleep at night knowing that your child was going to school with shoes that had the soles coming off, while you played games about me taking him to the store and pick out a pair a you'd buy them and send them to him? Do you finally realize how fucking retarded that was? And you did it because you were trying to make it harder on me so that I'd want to give Gabriel up to you! Fucking shameful! You're just a disgusting, sorry, pathetic human being who doesn't deserve the title of "mother". The world is full of parents like you (I know, I had 2 of them) and it's fucking sad. And you think that you can just wake up one day, decide to be a better person, and all your past wrongs will just go away? Thank God the world (and the legal system) doesn't work that way. Anyway, I'm not going to waste my time on you. I just got a new Sun server today and I'm going to go play with it. Fox P.S. Child support amounts are determined solely by the state and according to statutory criteria. The parents don't "request" or "seek" an amount. The judge has no discretion in the matter. The $700 was determined according to California law. The state set that amount based on our respective incomes and the amount of time Gabriel spent with each parent. I had nothing to do with any of that.
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013, 10:50 PM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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One more point I wish to clarify: I am not getting Gabriel things like video game consoles, and giving him money because I am trying to buy his affection or win him over from you. That is what ignorant white trash people do. I am doing it because I feel guilty that he had to go through so much bullshit because of me, and because for so long I wasn't able to provide for him, and because I believe he deserves to finally receive some rewards for being a good kid and doing well in school and being respectful and considerate of others. And because when I was a kid I didn't have nice things and I'll be damned if he's going to have anything near the childhood I had (though, you've certainly done a lot to bring his childhood experience closer to mine). And in some cases, because I promised him I would get it for him - and I would never, NEVER knowingly break a promise to him.
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013, 11:39 PM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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Okay, fine, one last thing: You want to know why I despise you so much and why I say that you're just an evil person? Yeah, well I'll tell you anyway. Because you're the type of woman that would go to a bar; meet a guy; have a one night stand with him; then the next day you'd be ashamed of yourself for doing it and you rather than accepting that it's who you are you'll have that innocent person charged with rape - just to save yourself a little embarrassment. You wouldn't care that that person might go to prison for 5 years or that his life might be ruined. So long as you don't have to admit to having that one night stand. And the other reason: you just don't care who you hurt or what trouble you create for someone as long as you get your way. And I don't mean your adversaries - I mean innocent bystanders. Even people who have been nice to you and helped you. And you don't feel an ounce of remorse for any of it. I don't think that you have truly cared about a single person, ever. You sometimes THINK you care about someone because you experience the physical sensations that you were taught mean love or caring. But that's just going through the motions. Your brain increases the levels or adrenaline, or dopamine, or whatever chemical will induce the sensation that you accept as "normal" or "appropriate" for the given external stimuli. Only a person with a complete lack of sincerity and decency can say they love someone more than anyone, or anything else, one day then completely turn on them and blame them for their own problems the next day. But it's not entirely your fault, you can only know what you were taught (or what you choose to read about, I suppose). Have you ever noticed, when you would come to LA for court and you, me and Liz would walk out of the court building, and when you spoke to Liz your face would light up and you'd be sweet. Then, within half a second, when you'd look at me you'd scowl. You know why? Because none of it was (or is) sincere. You don't mean a damn word of any of it. You're just going through the motions because you were taught that you're supposed to. I person cannot switch their frame of mind and their mood that quickly. It just isn't physically possible. Which leads me to believe that everything about you is phony. I noticed a long time ago, one time, you went for a job interview for an Oracle DBA position when we lived in Phoenix (in 2001) and you were telling me about it in the car on the way home. And there was one thing in particular that you said which I have never forgotten: the interviewer asked you something about your thoughts on running Oracle on Windows and you had scoffed at the thought. I realized right then and there that there was not one sincere or independent cell in your body. You take on the persona of the people around you; you try so hard to say what you think they want to hear. I don't think that you have a single independent thought or opinion? THAT is what you have to offer your children. And THAT is what scares me about Gabriel being around you. And THAT is why I despise you (and people like you). The fact that you have not grown as a person, in the past 12 years tells me that you are not someone that will humble yourself to share with your children some of the more unpleasant moments of life so that they can learn from your experiences and avoid your mistakes. It's a shame that each generation just keeps repeating the life experience of the previous generation because parents are too proud, or arrogant, or insecure to be honest and open with their children.