Gabriel's birthday present
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 1:33 AM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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Gabriel's birthday present
I just asked Gabriel if he would mind not getting a birthday present from you and he said he didn't really care. So, I you don't need to stress over it.
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 7:38 AM, Desiree Capuano wrote:
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That includes Assassins Creed III which I already pre-ordered. He understands that too? Whatever, I guess you can get it for him with the money I send if he's upset about it.
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 10:06 AM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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Desiree: I've already pre-ordered the Assassin's Creed III, Collector's Edition for him a few weeks ago (on August 12, 2012). I'm surprised he didn't tell you because he's quite excited about it. Perhaps there is not as much of a bond between you and him as you seem to think. Perhaps when he speaks to you he's just making conversation or passing time? I am simply hypothesizing not deliberately trying to upset you? If I wanted to upset you I would tell you about how he talks about you when he's here. But I wouldn't do that because it is not my intention to hurt your feelings for no reason. Or maybe he just talks that way because he thinks it's what I want to hear. Who knows? Oh, maybe if you buy him more stuff he'll love you more. Isn't that the strategy you've been using? Buy him a cat, a trampoline, a pool, a mobile phone, take him to a concert. Gee, why doesn't he love you...I mean you keep buying him things yet he just doesn't seem to respect you? How can it be? I'm also confused by your statement that I can get it for him with the money you send, if he's upset about it. I already said he's not upset about it. Please try to be a little more clear in your correspondence. With regard to your little tantrum and canceling his phone, you don't need to worry about that either. Liz is taking him to Verizon today to get him a phone that he won't have to worry about being turned off whenever someone gets butt hurt because he doesn't want to visit. Your actions make it quite clear that you got him that phone either to try to control him, to buy his affection, or to spite me. If you really got him the phone for his benefit then you wouldn't have had it turned off. If you're going to get that upset because he doesn't want to see you then you might as well get used to being upset. Thank you and have a great Sunday, Fox
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 11:15 AM, Desiree Capuano wrote:
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I love how you keep saying I bought a cat. I didn't buy the cat, I found the cat - didn't cost anything. Gabriel knows this - did he not tell you that? Does he keep agreeing with you when you say I bought it? Maybe he is just saying things to agree with you. I pre-ordered the video games when he was here over the summer. I'm quite surprised he didn't tell you because he was really excited about it.
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 11:31 AM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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I did not say you bought the cat. I said you HAVE a cat. You support and provide for the cat. That is money that can be put toward Gabriel's needs. Gabriel has never said you purchased the cat. He said you found it. I wonder how much you spend on your 3 dogs, 1 rabbit, and 1 cat each month. And on carpet cleaning when they crap in the house. And on upholstery cleaning to get all the hairs out of the furniture. Do you think that a child's financial needs are limited to the here and now? What about university tuition? How are you planning for that? What about braces (if they need them)? How do you plan for that? Do you intend to instill your paycheck to paycheck lifestyle on your children so they grow up the same way and carry on the same tradition? I asked Gabriel about you pre-ordering Assassin's Creed while he was out there. He says he has no knowledge of that. If I have to choose between believing you or him I would, of course, believe him. Why don't you produce a copy of the receipt to support your claim? Fox
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 11:59 AM, Desiree Capuano wrote:
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I have a receipt and I'll find it. Funny you mention providing for Gabriel now and in the future seeing as you've worked a total of 6 weeks in the last year. Are you iintending to inflict you're no paycheck to no paycheck lifestyle on your child do he grows up the same as you?
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 12:17 PM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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Well, hopefully you don't lose that receipt, otherwise, it may be difficult to obtain your pre-ordered copy. When I say "I" provide for Gabriel it is in the context of OUR situation. It does not necessarily mean I personally paid for something. It may have been Liz, or Liz's parents, or Oscar. But two people are responsible for providing for Gabriel - me and you. Whether you buy Gabriel a pair of pants or your mother does so it is considered to have come from you, as opposed to me. My employment situation is a circumstance currently beyond my control. It is one that I am actively working to improve. I am teaching Gabriel the importance of being independent and self-sustaining (through my experiences). I am teaching him to learn from my mistakes and my hardships so that he doesn't have to go through the same thing. I am not teaching him that being dependent on others and being unemployed is either normal or good. I am teaching him not to accept hand outs or government assistance. And not to rely on others for things. On the other hand, your paycheck to paycheck lifestyle is clearly a choice. Nobody makes you spend all of your money before your next check arrives. Nobody forces you to not save anything. Nobody universal force is compelling you to spend money on concerts and pools rather than investing a little bit of your income. Those are all conscious choices that you have been making. And your other child is seeing it and accepting that that is a normal way of life. Fortunately, in Gabriel's case he sees that it is NOT and acceptable way of life and will not choose that path. So tell me how our respective situations are in any way similar. I teach Gabriel to learn from my, and his own, problems and to approach situations with dignity and intelligence. You teach Sage to keep making the same mistakes over and over, live at the edge of financial ruin, and rely on the help and pity of others to get away with things. Would you like me to provide examples of you doing just that? Please come up with better, more thought out arguments rather than making yourself consistently look the fool. Fox
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 12:29 PM, Desiree Capuano wrote:
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How do you know anything about my lifestyle? You hear things second hand or see evidence of something and make up the circumstances surrounding it. So far, you have been wrong about every situation you said would happen with or to me. You don't know Sage either, so do not speak of him. Stick with things you know. You're "evidence" is all circumstantial and incomplete.
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 12:57 PM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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Are you on crack? You said in your own email that you would not have the means to contribute less than $100 to Gabriel's necessary expenses AND get him a birthday present. You said it yourself that you only get two paychecks this month. That can only mean that you are living paycheck to paycheck. And children learn much by observing the example set by their parents. Therefore, Sage sees the way you and Michael live and accepts it as the norm. Gabriel sees how you and I live and decides which he will consider the better way. You are, again, making vague, unsupported assertions which cannot be properly addressed because you provide no foundation. For example, you say "you hear things second hand and make up the circumstances" - what are you referring to? What circumstances have I made up. Didn't I provide specific references to support my claims? You say "So far, you have been wrong about every situation you said would happen to me..." - again, unless you provide specific examples then how can the issue be reasonably considered. Either provide examples or shut up. You're wasting everyone's time. Now let's consider some of my predictions that I was not wrong about: 1. I said you would be required to return Gabriel. Correct. 2. I said your attorney Goldfarb was a hack who was feeding you crap. Correct. 3. I said the MCAO would prosecute Kristopher for the forgery charges. Correct. 4. I said Gabriel would grow to despise you for the way you act. Correct. 5. I said you live paycheck to paycheck. Correct. 6. I said you're a pothead. Correct. 7. I said that you would choose Kristopher over your children. Correct. Please provide some examples of things I was wrong about. You cannot say my "evidence" is circumstantial. My evidence consists of your own emails, police reports, court records. How is that circumstantial. My single biggest evidence is usually your own admissions because you are too arrogant and insecure to keep your mouth closed when you should. At the same time, you refuse to cooperate in discovery or to respond to questions that I have a legal right to know about (like whose living in your house when Gabriel is there). You see, your response is typical of uneducated, uncultured people that have no legitimate defense or response (I'm trying to avoid using the term white trash because it seems to hit you a little too close to home). If any of what you said was true then you would not have any problems providing references to specific events. With respect to Sage - I've heard enough about him, and as they say the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree. I child is the product of his environment, so I know everything there is to know about him. He's an intellectually mediocre, overly emotional, emotionally and psychologically unstable child with anger control and violence issues, who whines to get what he wants and doesn't respect other people's privacy or property. Golly gee, sounds just like his parents. Imagine that. Again, I ask that you try to be more specific, and provide references in you arguments. Otherwise, your arguments are empty and meaningless. Fox
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 12:30 PM, Desiree Capuano wrote:
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And the pre order was done on my card, not cash so it doesn't matter if I have the receipt, they have it stored in the system.
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 1:11 PM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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If you say so. But nevertheless, based on your history of spewing bullshit (need references?) unless you provide evidence, like a credit card statement or a receipt it's just more of your blah-blah-blah. You know what kind of people build their argument based on what the other party just said? White trash and ignorant people. If I had said that I pre-ordered the game in June you would have said that you ordered it in May. You remember the school supplies? You found out I purchased the last items on July 6 so you claimed you bought him the supplies on July 4. However, when you finally produced a receipt it said July 6 - 3 hours after I told Gabriel on the telephone that I had ordered him the backpack and binder he said he wanted. What an incredible coincidence. Anyway, the backpack, binders, and supplies you got him are sitting in the closet being very useful. It's so much better that you got him duplicate supplies rather than, say, uniforms or a tablet. Those certainly wouldn't have been useful to him (sarcasm). Nice going, again, "mom". Fox
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 3:09 PM, Desiree Capuano wrote:
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Everything you think you know is because you heard about it. Therefore the information is second hand. I wasn't referring to situations in the court case, I was referring to your assertion that I would go to jail for pot charges, fail task, that Kris would go to jail, etc I have not ever tried to buy Gabriel's love. If you think I got a cat, a trampoline, and pool you are "on crack". I got those for everyone and he enjoyed them very much. I also don't need to bond with my son by bashing you and bad talking you with him. I don't ever speak to Gabriel about you but I suppose it gives you two something to share, discussing your disgust of me.
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 4:29 PM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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I don't recall saying you would go to jail for pot charges. Nobody goes to jail for a first time marijuana offense. I believe I said you would get 3 years probation. Which would be standard. I didn't realize you'd be foolish enough to accept TASC. Apparently your attorney did not advise on the long term implications of accepting a drug diversion program. If you successfully complete TASC without any negative tests I would be the first to acknowledge it (I would say the first to congratulate you but I'm not sure that a person's ability to stay off drugs is really something worthy of congratulations). Kristopher IS going to go to prison on the forgery charges. Just because prosecution hasn't commenced yet doesn't mean it's not going to. The case is just too strong against him. I mean, they have him on video, attempting to destroy evidence, conflicting statements, multiple witnesses. And he passed multiple bills at multiple locations over a period of a few months. Face it, he's burnt. There is no way the MCAO is going to walk away from such an easy case. And, I say that Kristopher is going to prison, not jail. Jail is for a sentence of one year or less. Prison is for a sentence of one year or more. Believe me, with his priors he's going for a lot more than a year. But these are merely predictions on my part. Maybe by some freak chance the MCAO will decide not to prosecute Kristopher. It could happen. I doubt it but it could. And you are aware that their looking at bringing charges against you for the second time the Scottsdale police seized marijuana from you (on 11/1/11), right? It's possible that they may not prosecute that either, but since you've already accepted prop 200 you've essentially screwed yourself on any future drug related prosecutions. But those are not my problems...wait, do you even know what prop 200 entails and what rights you've waived by accepting it? Do you know what it means to waive your right to a preliminary hearing? I don't think you do. Why do you keep saying I'm assuming things, and creating circumstances based on partial information. I don't assume anything. And I collect all the facts before formulating my opinions. When you think I'm making assumptions tell me and I'll let you know what they are based on. Fox
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 4:40 PM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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I forgot to respond to your second paragraph. It sounds like what you're saying is that you didn't try to buy Gabriel's love, but rather everybody's love. And Gabriel said that he enjoyed using the trampoline and pool for about a week then the novelty wore off. Then the pool wasn't properly maintained and the water got gross. I think you see the world through amazingly rose colored glasses. You cannot bond with Gabriel by bad talking me because there is nothing to bad talk. As for us talking about you, well, as I said yesterday, I don't need to portray you as a bad person to Gabriel because you do a fine enough job yourself. Canceling his phone because you were sulking was probably just the straw the brock the camel's back. It's been a whole string of actions on your part that eventually just pushed him to the point of getting fed up. I didn't have to do a damn thing.:) I just got back from the Verizon store. I got Gabriel a mobile with a 310 area code number. And for this one he won't have to wonder if it will still work tomorrow or the next day. I'm letting you know not to rub it in but so that you don't waste your time and resources reactivating the other phone. Do you want me to send it back to you, or what should I do with it? Fox
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 10:22 AM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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If you don't believe that I've already pre-ordered the Assassin's Creed III, Collector's Edition on August 12 I can scan and email you the receipt. Can you also provide proof that you've pre-ordered it? Then again, you probably did because I'm sure Kristopher and Sage want it as well. Anyway, I would like to point out that this current communication started with me civilly requesting your financial assistance with some of Gabriel's expenses so that I can add that to my declaration, and you responding with your pathetic attempt to make people feel sorry for you because your life is so hard. One of the things I'm currently teaching Gabriel is to speak his mind and to not be afraid of confrontation. At this point he's still uncomfortable saying things that he thinks might hurt people's feelings. As he get's past that I'm sure he'll become more candid with you about how he feels. Don't worry, just go smoke another bowl and the world will be perfect again. Fox
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 9:03 AM, Patrick Fox wrote:
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I wanted to follow up on this email you sent me on September 9, 2012. You stated that you had pre-ordered Assassin's Creed III for Gabriel for his birthday. I'm curious because you never sent it to him. Thanks, Fox